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. >> cenk: totally not true. and why did the republicans cave on the debt ceiling? the republicans caving? we'll explain why. it's go time. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: secretary of state hillary clinton went up to the hill to talk to the senators and congressmen, and she got a rude, rude arrival there in the form of very aggressive questions and statements by the republicans. first she laid out her case. let's listen. >> for me this is not just a matter of policy, it's personal. i stood next to president obama as the marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at andrews. i put my arms around the fathers and mothers, the sisters and bow brothers and the wives left alone to raise their children. >> cenk: the republicans were not appeased with that, and they requested about benghazi what produced one of the biggest flareups of the day. >> he were misled that there was protest and an assault sprang out that have. that was easily ascertained. that was not the fact. the american people could have known that in days. >> with all due respect. the fact is we had four dead americans was
is what president obama said monday about the debt ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4
some potential early peeks at 2016 fights. >>> republican reset, with a short-term debt ceiling deal in motion, speaker boehner and paul ryan talk tough on the party's path forward. this morning, we'll talk to another top house republican, georgia's tom price, about the challenges ahead. >>> and the 2012 campaign saw ron paul's supporters get inside the nominating system to buck the establishment. now party leaders might face a fight on new rules put in place at the convention, to shore up the establishment and prevent the next insurgent, rand paul, say, in 2016? good morning from washington. it's thursday, january 24th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. apologies for the gravelly voice. i have beyonce's lip syncer standing by, shall i need her. anyway, let's get right to my first reads of the morning. secretary of state hillary clinton will be back on the hill today for what is likely to be her last appearance before congress as america's top diplomat. she'll introduce her likely successor, senator john kerry, whose confirmation begins just about an hour from now. t
getting word that as expected the house will vote on the debt ceiling limit for another few months, pushing it back to may 19. the report on this possibility yesterday in washington for the inauguration, this this might be a face-saving gesture on the part of republicans to gather their duffs and buy some time with a president who at least for the time being is more popular than they. what do you make of the timing of this vote? -- and what they will gain? >> i think the republicans were concerned about public perception of them not doing anything and i think it's a bad idea. i mean, i think this kicks the can down the road. move people say, we want a solution today. we don't want to keep having this conversation. every couple of months, we talk about the debt ceiling, what good is a ceiling if you keep raising it and you don't make spending cuts to keep yourself under that number? it has no purpose. >> neil: i want to take a look at the corner of wall and broad. many argue the reason why it was up 62 points is the fact that, whew -- it's a relief they won't bring this to the brink
the republican house do when it comes to a question of the debt ceiling in recognition of all of this economic-- all of these decisions have an impact on small businesses and the fact that we have gridlock in d.c.? do you want to see them work more with the president and try to get a solution as to maybe, the little less extreme than what the president wants or do you want them to dig their heels in the ground and fight it tooth and nail? >> and the principals, they have to understand they only control one third of the government and they have to work with the president to come to a resolution, and the first thing i'd like to see the senate pass a budget. senate hasn't passed a budget in over four years at this point. i think what's going to happen on the debt ceiling they're going to vote to extend the debt ceiling for a couple of months and that's good. we don't want to be in a situation where we're defaulting or the threat of default, but i think they need to tie that back to something and maybe it's not the big and grand bargain with the entitlement plans right now, but i think at a minimu
president obama before they raise the debt ceiling. the g.o.p. is calling to balance the federal budget in just ten years. that's almost twice as fast as previous efforts by republicans. if that is the case, medicare and other safety net programs wills take a huge hit. yesterday's extension of the debt ceiling now goes to the senate which will likely pass it as well. we'll be right back. (vo) current's award winning original series is back with an all new episode straight from the headlines. (vo) in the minefield of the nation's gun control debate, this could be the most polarizing issue. >> anybody can claim stand your ground and they could get away with murder. >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: yes indeed. equality moves to the front lines as the pentagon today lifts the ban on women in combat. big move. a great move. hello, everybody. happy, happy thursday and welcome, welcome to the "full court press." coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours. god bless america. we're booming out to
well, it's under cutting their own ideas. take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year. 111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes necessary to reinstitute the talking filibuster even through the so-called nuclear option, even though everyone seems to want it. the last hope in filibuster reform is harry reid's great compromise of needing 41 votes to maintain a filibuster but i'm confident that the democrats will find some way to back down from that, too. joining me now the only one and only michael tomasky. starting with the debt ceiling. 111 democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. was this all about the no budget no pay provision are the democrats trying to stick it to
their lives around. rich: the house tomorrow will vote to extend the debt ceiling to may 19, as long as the senate and house both pass a budget. if not, this bill prescribes that it gets held back is not. dagen: thank you. president obama mentioned just about everything from gun control to climate change in his inaugural address. one thing was almost missing, though. jobs. joining us with more is steve moore. he laid out his agenda, a whole host of things. why not focus on jobs. does he think that this recovery is so on track that jobless rate will continue to fall, steve? >> i was struck by that also. in the whole speech, he did not talk about jobs. he did not talk about private business and entrepreneurs. it was a very pro-government speech. the president has a big challenge ahead. we still have a near 8% unemployment rate in this country, chipolte, over the last four years of this suppose it recovery. i do not think he mentioned the word jobs in that entire speech. dagen: three times. we did a quick count. >> i stand corrected. dagen: if you go through the list of things that he c
safer, stronger and more secure. >> also out of d.c., a potential crisis over the debt ceiling. looks like it will be averted, at least until the spring. the republican-controlled house passed a bill allowing the government to avoid default and continue borrowing money and paying its bills until may. it also requires lawmakers in both chambers to pass a budget if they actually want to keep getting paid their salary. with the senate set to sign on house speaker john boehner credited the bill for forcing the democrats' hand. >> after four years i'm glad the senate has finally decided to act. because there is no indication that we're going to do a budget until we announced last week that we were going to move this bill that said pass a budget or no pay. >> paul ryan wears that orange tie a lot. boehner wears that green tie quite a bit. the democrat-controlled senate has not produced a detailed budget in 1,366 days. yesterday democratic leaders said the measure is actually a victory for the president. >> i'm not sure what happened at the house republican retreat last week, but it sure had
's going through? punting the debt ceiling. a vote is going to go through today. >> punting it down three more months. >> hal: a three-month wait to deal with -- >> because why get done today what you can put off? >> hal: because people are still glowing in the aftermath of the inauguration. people are still recognizing the president -- their message that the president isn't interested in deficits and handling it because he did mention it in his inauguration. he did mention doing in a balanced approach and the american people agree with him on that part. so if they have to act on it in the next week, people are still that much engaged. they're hoping in three months the american public will disengage enough for them to create another false narrative. >> so when we talk about rating the debt ceiling. we've already racked up the bills and we have to pay them. that's an obvious -- that's the fact. >> hal: right. >> they like to combine the two right and make it about future spending and paying off the bills. the president says it over and over and over again but it doesn't stick. don't under
there is a backdrop to this speech. the backdrop to this speech is the fact that he was strong on the debt ceiling and has been strong on the debt cereal something far. he was strong on gun rights. he came out worried about legacy and he's going to build the legacy through strength. i understand why people are dubious, but this was a magnificent speech in that it was about "we," other people. you talk about immigration you talk about a poet of cube an disaccidentdissent who is gay. he talked about stone wall and seneca walls and selma benchmark historical moments for women, black americans gay americans, this was a spectacular speech because of that. it is words but i think he's starting to see the "we" in this and he wants to lead all of us. >> cenk: i saw your tweet from earlier saying if this was for mitt romney you wouldn't here about seneca or selma that's a good point. here is a clip that sounds perfectly good but there is one big issue if you ask me. let's watch it together. >> obama: we must act knowing that our work will be imperfect. we must act knowing today's victories will only be par
want to talk about other things, his doors open. they're going to raise the debt ceiling. he understands that the brinksmanship that the republicans were able to bring last time, just doesn't exist. this guy is popular with the american people. he is a likeable guy, a great family. a few more weeks of this honeymoon before the sharks start to come back into the water but hopefully he will truly take advantage of it. >> joy reid, and richard wolffe, thank you for joining us on this historic night. and america's troubadeer in chief, james taylor gets tonight's last word.
of tomorrow's voigte on the debt ceiling. is congressman mccarthy, i promoted you earlier. welcome back. >> thanks for having me. >> sean: and going back to the issue, we played it it, that's all that he said about the economy, 8.3 fewer americans are working today than there were four years ago, what is your reaction to that? >> well, just shows you how out of touch eghe is. normally when the president is reelected, remember, no landslide. you work together, find common ground and work ford. this person's goal is to break the republican party. he's out of touch where america is at and it's more of a speech after progressive party agenda not something for all of america to get behind. >> sean: how ironic, too, the president lecturing the americans on tone and did you remember of talking about mitt romney and a steel worker's wife? >> and when you work on a president's speech in the inaugural, you usually have a take away line. what is the take away line. normally when the election is over, it's time to govern, he moved the campaign committee going when he can't run for further office. t
strong. now interesting note on the republicans. on the other hand they caved on the debt ceiling. so why did they cave on the debt ceiling. we have an expert on that. i think that's really interesting, and what do they plan to do on the budget fights instead. and then there is an unbelievable documentary on how wall street got away with clear criminal action. it's a devastating story. i can't wait to share it. >> jennifer: all right. cenk uygur "young turks" at the top of the hour. thanks, cenk. >> thank you. >> jennifer: now we're going to turn to a story about equality. located in the nation's capitol, washington national cathedral is the sixth largest cathedral in the world, and the second largest in the united states. it was built in 1792. it is magnificent. it has hosted many important events. it is also a place where local d.c. resident goes to pray and baptize their children and get married. and now for the first time in the institution's more than 200-year history, gay couples can officially get married at the cathedral too. here to tell us about this exciti
they won the round because the debt ceiling will go up in may. without offsetting spending cuts. republicans counter getting the senate democrats to agree to a budget by april means for the first time in four years congress may be able to show some degree of real fiscal discipline. bret? >> bret: thank you. senate majority leader harry reid hopes to get a deal done soon with republicans over new filibuster rules. they want to require senators to be present when they filibuster. republicans are resisting that. reid hinted he may use the so-called nuclear option to change the rules, with a simple majority of 51 votes instead of the usual two-third. the dow continued its momentum, up for a fourth day if a row today. industrial average gained 67. to reach the highest closing value since halloween of 2007. the s&p 500 finished ahead two. the nasdaq increased 10-1/2. we will hear from the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee a bit later. up next, why you are giving a powerful weapon to enemy of a friend. [ male announcer ] ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you
saying we'll have bitter fights perhaps debt ceiling shutting down the government, perhaps begun control. they will be tough fights and the american people need to be ready for that. >> john: george, it seemed--what are your thoughts on that before i move on. do you think that was a pretty direct calling out of mitch mcconnell and the republicans? >> yes, look over the next few months we'll we you'll have a big fight over the sequester the funding of the government and the debt ceiling. i think he's trying to pull out the weeds of that because none of it is the soaring lofty rhetoric. i think he's trying to push past that mess to what he would care to do. >> john: alex, after seeing how large a role the hispanic vote played in the 2012 election and how poorly mitt romney played to that demographic. let's not forget his univision appearance what i call gringo star. >> they may need to work out what the messaging is going to be on this site. if they don't you can bet the democrats will use it in the the 2014 midterm. you remember in 2010 when democrats could not get the minority voters out
to the caucus, we can't win this fight publicly. let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said we don't have the votes. that's now, and that is before the president goes
term is starting where his first left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> and for those who need a quick campaign 2012 refresher, it was quite obvious to whom that phrase, a nation of takers, was directed at. >> we can become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. more takers than makers in society. takers versus makers in america. >> could have been listening to ayn rand then. joining us is democratic congressman charlie rangel of new york. >> good to be back with you. >> congratulations on a new congress. in an interview today paul ryan said those comments of his had nothing whats
. and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budget in days. i think they're trying to make the best of a bad situation. absolutely w
of the filibuster reform. >> debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling stuff. it seems like this is a city that he gets -- he is more of an insider in washington than he was four years ago. i will say about the denis mcdonough appointment, it's good to finally see a white guy get a top job. it's really -- they've been shut out. >> they gave him a chance. >> thanks god. >> there's a reason why this was held up. the president jokes about saying it's the best kept secret in washington. we've all known. we've all reported in various ways that he is the choice. what did they do yesterday? they appointed a female to be lady of the s.e.c. it mattered. the scheduling worked to stack this one today zoosh the optics on it. >> i actually had thought he was already named chief of staff. that's how bad the secret was. we have to take a break, but when we come back, senators and frenemies. they strike a deal for the much maligned filibuster. is it still business as usual in the upper chamber? we'll discuss next. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth
control just one of many issues congress is going to have to deal with. debt ceiling debate now postponed until may. the sequestering, the continuing resolution. and republicans are pushing for changes in entitlements. is this in large part about where the white house decides where to put its political capital? >> kwlourks know what, we have also forgotten in this discussion, we remain in the midst of a terrible, terrible recession. counting people who have given up looking for work and underemployed. we are looking at -- almost 15% of our population who is unemployed, who don't have jobs. real wages for millions of workers are going down. the gap between the very, very wealthy and everybody else is growing wider. so what concerns me is, yeah, you have to deal with gun control. deal with a lot of other issues, but we cannot -- we cannot forget the reality that tens and tens of millions of working people are really hurting. >> how would you prioritize then again if you have to figure out where you're going to put your political capital? how would you prioritize. there was a big headline to
the pomp and pageanpageantry, this morni questions about the debt ceiling, gun control and how to get congress to work together. we'll get to that. but last night it was all about celebrating the second term of the 44th president of the united states of america. nbc's steve handelsman has more. >> reporter: they wowed the crowd at the inaugural balls. president obama in white tie but first lady michelle obama in a ruby red gown by jason wu. this was the ball for the military. >> i have no greater honor than being your commander in chief. >> reporter: it had been an obama family day. malia and sasha, dad and mom. as america paid tribute. an inaugural parade that showed off the nation's talent and diversity. >> i, barack hussein obama, do solemnly swear. >> reporter: the presidential's ceremonial swearing-in witnessed by as many as 1 million people. >> congratulations, mr. obama. >> reporter: mr. obama urged cooperation, rare now in washington, to cut health care costs and the deficit. >> but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this
in the house caved over the weekend on the debt ceiling and said, all right. they will extend it for only three months, not good enough. they said they will extend it notno strings attached without all of the cuts to social security and medicare they had been demanding bluffs president obama, we got his back and he stays tough, gets things done in this second term. let's talk about it 866-55-press here on the "full-court press." it's monday morning, inaugural day, january 21st. >> this is "the full court press: the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. current tv presents special coverage of the presidential inauguration. the pomp, the circumstance the insight and analysis. only on current tv. we have a big big hour and the iq will go way up. (vo) current tv gets the converstion started weekdays at 9am eastern. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. >> you are. >> the troops love me. (vo) tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >> you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. just be grateful current tv does n
the road. and the tax hikes were not as bad as many people thought. the next thing is the debt ceiling which was a big leverage point and republicans kicked that can down the road. all you have left is the sequester. a lot of votes stores are on the sidelines worried about political risk and but a lot of political risk has been removed. tracy: you said kicked down the road but it will come back. you're talking about short-term euphoria for a while, correct? >> correct. the fed money policy is a huge driver. they're in the process of a financial repression regime where you look at different asset classes like treasury bonds. they're incredibly expensive. you don't make anything after cash. you lose money after inflation, right? tracy: right. >> what are your options? they're trying to drive people into risk assets. as investors look into high-yield bond or certain types of mortgage-backed securities they have become very rich. the only thing really left is equities. it is almost a process of elimination for investors. they end up driving equities higher. tracy: that's what we've seen in
. and more instance show downs are looming. one example the debt creel and controlli -- debt ceiling and what americans describe as out of control spending. what do key republicans take with the attitude toward congress at this point? >> to get real solutions president obama needs to understand what will pass in the republican led house. it will also be acceptable to him. lawmakers tend to be unhappy when the president goes around them. they called on mr. obama to do better. >> he speaks in general terms likes the executive order approach a whole lot better than the legislative approach. you can't get all that foreign with executive order. you have to legislate and you have to legislate realistically. you have to realize you don't control the entire congress. >> republicans don't like that the president is converting his campaign apparatus into a purpose that helped him in his second term. they are thinking that is probably not a good sign in working in a bipartisan fashion. >> one area where they do not agree at all is over the budget. it>> it has been a source of problems when they work on
the republicans and how he is now saying he will not wheel and deal with the debt ceiling. how he is putting his foot down and moving forward, all of the i shall shoes that we want to see changed. i think this is the time. we have a new president. and there's a song that says what are they doing in heaven today? and i'm sure dr. martin luther king, jr., today was cheering the watch party. >> the president, as we're speaking, you're seeing the president is leaving the viewing stand, the parade is over. and he is leaving the viewing stand. that's a live shot of the president and the vice president. leaving the viewing stand and shortly we'll go in and get prepared for the inaugural bats tonight. there will be two of them that the president has publically announced. he will attend the military ball and the regular presidential ball. governor rendell, you've watched and worked with presidents as governor, as the chair of the dnc. tell us from your vantage point the difference between president obama and 2009 and his first inaugural and the president obama we saw today? >> well, the answer is experie
, today republicans in the house are expected to vote on a plan that's going to defuse the debt ceiling crisis at least temporarily. republicans are planning to offer legislation that will suspend the enforcement of the federal debt limit for at least three months, allowing the government to keep borrowing money to pay for all of its current obligations. in exchange, the house gop'ers want the democratic-controlled senate to do something they haven't done in 1,365 days, pass a budget. something that body hasn't done since 2009. now, instead of demanding spending cuts, republicans have added a provision to the bill that would suspend lawmakers' own paychecks if their chamber fails to pass a budget by april 15th. that's a lot like actually the no labels, no budget, no pay plan that that organization's been dealing with, talking about for a long time. michael steele, i think that's a great idea. >> i do, too. >> if you don't do your job -- >> why get paid for it? >> and the democrats in the senate haven't done their job in that many days, why pay them? >> i don't think you should. in fact,
, the most immediate problem, tomorrow the house is voting on this extended debt ceiling and this is to avoid a confrontation in the short-term, but the large ers issues remain. >> that was quite a performance saying don't go there. i got this one, and they backed away. that has been lost in the excitement over the last couple of days. it just gets kicked down the road, and can you tell from his speech yesterday that he has -- the democratic coalition is in no mood to give an inch on spending, and it remains the big problem whether you really, democrat or republican, on the budget because it was unaddressed in the last round. you can tell the republicans want to get at it. if that was a sign of compromise yesterday, it was the shortest one sentence sign that i have ever seen. so a fight is come. >> a fight is coming, and we all know that you can not do it without dealing with the main entitlements. there is no way -- >> well, that's exactly right. >> there is no way at this stage without -- >> dealing with that. in that speech he made it very clear where he said -- >> he is not going anywhere
and getting them whatever they want to call it, a postponement, a retreat on holding the debt ceiling hostage, those are real changes from the sort of kumbahyah obama that we saw a lot of at this time this time early in his first term. so i think it's all good, and i think he may be emboldened. his views, he is essentially a liberal centrist. i don't think anyone can really ever doubt that. but he hasn't always stood up for it. and sometimes it seems he is so eager to find some kind of nonexistent bipartisan compromise to the party of no, that he sort of shirked from it. >> i think he has stopped -- he went -- moved from saying we can find something between us that we can agree to move together on, that was sort of what he started off saying. and now he is saying we can agree to do it my way. my way, actually, is widely agreed upon. and it is the way that we can move forward, and i think we ought to. it's a bolder stance. >> it's a bolder stance. and by the way, he won the election. >> and that's why he's free to say it. >> this doesn't stop them from calling him a socialist radical. >> oh, n
last week that was a clean no budget no pay piece. i think we should have a clean debt ceiling extension and the fact they coupled it together probably is not how i would have introduced legislation. that said, our job is putting together a responsible budget. that allows the public to see what our priorities are, how we're going to use our tax revenue. and we can do this in a smart way. >> one thing that is going on currently as we speak, the confirmation hearings for john kerry to take over for secretary clinton, and yesterday, it was certainly a big day on the hill for secretary clinton about the benghazi situation. i want to play for everybody what you had to say as well as senator barbara boxer told the secretary of state. >> as a new member of congress, i think i speak for all the freshman that we're not going to get much time to serve with you, but we hope in a few years we'll get that chance to serve again. >> i want to thank you because this is maybe the last time you'll come before us as secretary here. i want to thank you for your advocacy on behalf of women around t
their crowning achievement pushing through a debt ceiling suspension until may by a vote of 285-144 yesterday. i guess a hard day's work deserves a week and a half of recess. >> amen. >> meantime, the senate is in session today and harry reid and mitch mcconnell apparently agreed on a filibuster reform deal. a senator can no longer filibuster the so-called motion to proceed and killed a chance for up or down vote on legislation and be easier to appoint members to negotiate with the house once a bill is passed and until now even after a fill buster is beaten, there is still a 30-hour wait before a nominee confirmed. this time would now be cut to just two hours. the leaders also agreed any senator wishing to filibuster must come to the senate floor to do so. now, the steps might seem to represent progress but not nearly what many progressives wishing for. the headline in "the huffington post" says it all calling it failibuster. >> whoa. >> 60-vote senate is still intact. today is ira shap ro and also author of "the last great senate." and he joins us now. ira, i want to get to the filibuster deal
having about the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of state said, and i'm quoting her, we are facing a spreading hi hjihadist threat across nort africa. is it your view that the attack on the consulate in libya, the hostage taking at that gas plant in algeria, and the conflict in mali mean that north africa is now the main front for islamic terrorism and how does a new secretary of state confront this? >> great question. i don't know that i would say it's the main front, but it is certainly a serious front and a serious set of interlocked issues. one thing we have to debate on libya, because i've been perp
is that this idea that there is a deficit crisis and we're going to be greece if we don't breach the debt ceiling and impose budgets that cut the government 40% in ten years, the idea behind those crisis mongers is that we have to slash the heck out of social insurance, out of programs that provide educational opportunities for poor people, out of things that push back against economic inequality. we can't afford it. we must cut them. the crisis dictates it. if there is no crisis and, as krugman and i argue, there is no crisis, if there is no crisis, they're just out there in nowhere land by themselves, by the way, without the majority of the electorate behind them. >> very briefly, jared, if you can, eric cantor says taxes are done, no taxes, so i guess another stalemate to come on that? >> i see -- it's hard to see how the budget that's going to come out of the senate, and i think patty murray is going to do a very good job on that, is going to reconcile with the kind of budgets we're looking at. >> jared bernstein who absolutely deserves the nobel peace prize, thank you, sir, thank you for joi
on the debt ceiling and fight -- live to fight another day, he really is looking more and more like a 2016 possibility because he is trying to recast the posture of the party. >> i don't know where he gets tough sacrifices. what he asked before, and now he wants to do a budget of ten years that will balance the budget. you know, to do that would require even more drastic cuts that i think he knows democrats will not go along with. that's going to be difficult. i think it's a question of what issues do they take off the table like immigration as well as how they approach the budget and build out their own coalition, which they haven't figured out yet. >> and we see transitions tim geithner, saying good-bye. he ligue really with the respect of the white house and respect of the markets? >> i think, you know, it's a question that paul krugman gets at in the "new york times" today. what et cetera the right path to ultimately create jobs and growth? >> do you still have to focus on the deficit, or will that take care of itself to some degree versus more budget cutting? this is a thing that geit
to be -- to compromise to the slightest extent and all they did was kick the debt ceiling down the road three months. >> stephanie: yeah, and boehner called his own bluff he said never going to raise it without equal pay cut, and basically he went back on that, and as you said, all he did was kick it down the road for three months. what was the point for him? >> the point was to look like they had some kind of a win because they knew they were in trouble on the debt ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see. they are going to try to balance the budget in ten years, which you cannot do without slashing medicare and medicaid, and social security. so the american people will get, i think, a very good look at the way republicans want to balance the budget and do deficit reduction and the way democrats do. we actually went through this with paul ryan's budget which was so egregious the leader of his party had to back awa
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